‘[The teacher] took him and stood him in front of his classmates this week, asked every single child to tell Alex why [they] don’t like him… (in his words) “tell Alex why we hate him”,’ explained Ms. Barton. After having each child ridicule the boy, she says the teacher continue belittling him.
Ms. Barton went on to say, ‘Then they had a vote on if he deserved to stay in the class or not.’ Like a twisted reality show, Barton says in a 14-2 vote his classmates voted the five year old out of the classroom.”
I think i would want to hear more about this story, like what in the world did this child do to lead up to his teacher acting like this. I dont know if i have to much sympathy for the child right now cause i have seen some 5 yr olds that i swear Satan himself gave birth too. IDK…what do yall think?
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May 29, 2008 @ 7:26 am
Sorry, don’t need any more information- that is COMPLETELY ridiculous…it is not your job to "vote" a kid out of a classroom…if you are having a problem with an unruly child, then you need to take the matter in hand with the parents and approach the principal to get the child removed.
May 29, 2008 @ 7:34 am
I’m down with it. Your bad kid shouldn’t be my problem. There are other kids in that class room who are effected byt that lil asshole devil. The teacher can’t spend all day chasing that lil moron around while the other kids miss out on their education. Take care of your damn kids so other people won’t have to. If my kid was acting up, he should be voted out of the class… then imma whip his ass and wait for his ass to do it again. Stop being soft on these lil bastids….
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/05/29/2008-05-29_suddenly_it_seems_like_citys_full_of_kid.html
Now tell me it ain’t crack babies …..
May 29, 2008 @ 7:42 am
I dont think its fair to isolate a kid and make them feel like shit BUT at the same time peoples parenting skills nowadays have gone straight down the toilet. I run into a lot of people whose kids running shit. An the parents are even afraid to put they foot down and esrtablish authority. Thats why all these kids running around acting stupid cause they arent learning the basics at home. Ida kicked lil Johnny ass out to, i may not have taken that approach but his ass woulda had to go if he was cutting up that bad.
May 29, 2008 @ 7:54 am
And that’s my point- I am not in favor of kids being allowed to disrupt a class consistently without repurcussion, but I don’t think she should have held him up to the class for ridicule "now, everyboy tell Johnny why you don’t like him"…are you fucking kidding me?
THAT’S not creating a mob mentality or anything- maybe there were kids in the class who may not have felt the way some did- at least 2 kids went against the majority and voted to keep him around- there might have been others who would have voted to keep him, but may have felt pressure to go along with what was teacher-encouraged behavior.
Unh Unh.
May 29, 2008 @ 7:58 am
Unprofessional.
Where did this story come from.
This person has prolly already been fired.
May 29, 2008 @ 8:01 am
I don’t have any children but I have a better perspective on this because I was that asshole kid that was very disruptive and I got kicked out of 3 elementary schools because of it. I shaped up a lot during high school but I was always clowning around and causing trouble b4 that. It honestly wasn’t even my mothers fault, I was just an asshole. She would chase me up and down the block with a belt in broad day, she would even beat other people kids…lol…But the kids in the class were sufferring because I was getting all the attention and you just can’t have that.
May 29, 2008 @ 8:05 am
See i wasnt that bad in school. My problem, like my daughters, is i viewed school as a social session and not a place to learn. So i was always in trouble for talking during class. And my mother wasnt afraid to come TO the school and beat my ass cause i remember one time she did….ill never 4get that dark day
May 29, 2008 @ 8:05 am
2 kids went against the majority and voted to keep him around- there might have been others who would have voted to keep him, but may have felt pressure to go along with what was teacher-encouraged behavior.
Unh Unh.
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Its not ethical and it its not professional but maybe the teacher did it to show the kid that his classmates don’t approve of what he is doing while he thinks they do. He might crack jokes and act stupid to make them laugh thinking he is just having fun while the other kids in the class would rather him just sit down and shut the fuck up. People need to stop taking kids for idiots… they know what they are doing while they do it. You got 6 and 7 year olds stealing cars and we waanna act like the lil fuck didn’t know any better. B4 you know it, he’s 16 and popping niggas for change and here comes his mother on some " He is a good kid… I never saw this coming"… GTFOH.
May 29, 2008 @ 8:16 am
It’s definitely unprofessional
It reads like they made each kid say fk you. But maybe it was more civil than that. I don’t think this went down as bad as it sounds. Maybe He’s constantly disruptive the kids don’t like it or him maybe he’s bothering them and being mean. The teacher took a different approach trying to teach him this is not how you make friends. Are we sure she kicked him out permantly or was it a vote all the kids want you out. He leaves cries his eyes out teach makes him apologize to the whole class and he comes back as long as he behaves…
I guess I agree wit Cec need to no more details
but I hope people don’t get so caught up in that, that they the kids parents off the hook.
I say they install a come get your kid rule…
A certain quota for offenses and once its exceeded you have to come get your kid or get reported to child services or some sht where your forced to attend classes on how to handle a child wit inappropiate behavior…
May 29, 2008 @ 8:17 am
IHNC
Thats a different way to look at it.
May 29, 2008 @ 8:25 am
But see, again- my complaint is not with getting the kid out of the class if he’s disruptive- the problem I have is that as the teacher, YOU are the authority figure- it is not the job of the children to aid you in disciplining one another.
May 29, 2008 @ 8:32 am
‘it is not the job of the children to aid you in disciplining one another.’
May 29, 2008 @ 8:34 am
comment by cec :
May 29, 2008 @ 8:17 am
IHNC
Thats a different way to look at it.
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Parents gotta take responsibility. My barely 2 year old niece gets in trouble all the time at her day care (the problem child shit must run in the family). She hits the teachers and even grab a teachers hair so bad that another techer had to pry her off. She’s hit other kids and my brother and his baby momma are sitting there wondering why ??? … Assholes…. all yall do is fight around her and yall wanna wonder why she reacts with violence ? My mother used to work like 3 jobs so me acting out when i was younger was for attention…. I was hardly ever violent. It always comes back to the parents and what they are taught at home. You can’t fail in raising your children and then blame somebody else for scolding them the way you should have. If yourkid is bad enough to merit a vote for his removal ( 14 to 2 mind you) your reaction should be "why is my child such an asshole" instead of " why ou gotta kick him out for".
Its almost like your kid getting roughed up during a weed arrest and your attention falls on the "roughing up"instead of the the actual "weed charge". If his ass wasn’t doing any thing fucked up, he wouldn’t have gotten arrested in the first place. If the kid got voted out, he shouldn’t have been acting up in the first place. Motherfuckers need to stop blaming the "system" for everything.
May 29, 2008 @ 8:37 am
( 14 to 2 mind you)
Im wondering, and im curious to know, if the 2 that voted him to stay was his running mates and the rest of the kids was being terrorized by him
May 29, 2008 @ 8:38 am
YOU are the authority figure- it is not the job of the children to aid you in disciplining one another.
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But some children will react to the other kids moreso than an "authority figure". She might use the other children as props to help this kid realize that the kids are not down with what he is doing either. Some kids just rebel when grown up tell them no because they don’t get it at home. So you use other children to make the lil asshole realize that even his own peers thinks he is a loser fuck asshole.
May 29, 2008 @ 8:44 am
Im wondering, and im curious to know, if the 2 that voted him to stay was his running mates and the rest of the kids was being terrorized by him
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Exactly … nobody is protesting the kid being a dickheaded asshole but they are quick to judge the actions of the teacher. A kid get beat up by a cop because the kid had a gun on him and his parent are suing the NYPD instead of locking their son in a closet until he straigtens out…thats bullshit. When I have children, imma give his/her teachers a note telling them they can dropkick him/her at any instant if they act up because kids know that they won’t get disciplined by the teachers.
May 29, 2008 @ 8:45 am
We need to bring back corporal punishment
May 29, 2008 @ 8:47 am
YOU are the authority figure- it is not the job of the children to aid you in disciplining one another.
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without knowing all the facts
I don’t necessarilly agree there’s anything wrong with this
Im gonna assume this is not the first time the kids been a problem and that this is prolly an alternative measure to see if the kid will learn from his peers that this is inappropiate.
Maybe the teacher felt your not listening to me
cuz you feel like the other kids are encouraging you. Or no one standing up to you, letme give them that opportunity and at the same time teach you this is not how you make friends.
And maybe seeing that your peers don’t like it will make you change your behavior.
and this is hypothetical cuz I don’t know what the teacher was thinking
to me how the teacher did it defines how I feel bout it
if she had all the kids make fun on him
I cosign that the teacher was dead wrong
but if its along the lines Im explaining
I don’t necessarily have an issue wit it.
good thread topic
May 29, 2008 @ 8:53 am
‘nobody is protesting the kid being a dickheaded asshole’
It doesn’t matter how ‘bad’ the child is…
you do not publicly ridicule a young child in front of their peers and expect their behavior to improve.
If anything, this kid is gonna fuck around and kill somebody when he gets older.
That’s how shit gets started.
And besides…
a teacher can certainly go to the principal and get the student removed from class if the situation was serious ’serious’.
May 29, 2008 @ 8:55 am
Personally i agree with Banga, There is to much information missing for me to draw a formal opinion. I totally agree with u banga
May 29, 2008 @ 8:59 am
Personally i agree with Banga, There is to much information missing for me to draw a formal opinion. I totally agree with u banga
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Lemme add
I don’t believe the kid is telling the whole truth
Kids ain’t stupid
My Son’s 4 and because chicks look at him like some lil Cutie he knows how to use that sht to get away wit murder and unless you wit him regular you wont be desensitized to his innocent puppy dog act.
I have a feeling that didn’t go down quite the way the kid is spilling it.
May 29, 2008 @ 9:01 am
Man… I had to yoke up this lil 14/15/16year old kid a few weeks ago . I go to drop my friend and his daughter off at the library and I walks inside because I haven’t been in a library in like 15 years…lol. So this lil bastard fuck is taunting this other lil boy and turns around and asks me "what the fuck you looking at " ?. So I turns looking around thinking "he can’t be talking to me" and when I realized what he said he repeated it. I went up to the kid and grabbed him by the collar, lifted his punk hass half way off his feet and told him that" I ain’t your daddy but I will beat your ass like he should be". I took the lil fuck , put his hands behind his back and used his face to open the door. Meanwhile, the securty guard is sitting there looking at this kid bully all the lil ones. My man comes out talking saying I shouldn’t have did this or that because the kids parents might… gtfoh…. if he had parents that gave a fuck, he wouldn’t be standing outside the fucking library bullying kids. I’m tired of these lil fucks getting a pass on shit. I used to be a bad ass kid but never to the point of disrespecting random grownups and I still feel I woulda been better off early on if somebody else was popping me in my mouth other than my moms.
May 29, 2008 @ 9:07 am
Yea - Kids nowadays in they teens think and almost know they grown. They smelling their asses a lil to soon. U wanna talk like u grown then ima treat u like u grown. I aint scared of you or your momma
May 29, 2008 @ 9:07 am
a teacher can certainly go to the principal and get the student removed from class if the situation was serious ’serious’.
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Thats that "due process- everybody has rights" bullshit…lol.
I gotta give the teacher the benefit of the doubt and say she might have contacted the parent about the kids behavior. If she did, than i gotta figure she thought this is one of her last resorts. Bottom line is that if you have bad kids, bad things will happen to them. Whether it be teachers , other students or the law itself. That being said as a parent you have to figure what is the most important battle. Fight with the teachers and school for trying to scold your child for being a asshole fuck or turn your attention to you asshold fuck child and try to make him/her a better grown up. That what I WORRY about because its people like me and you who will suffer when this lil fuck face bastard is 17 years old and running wild all because teachers aren’t allowed to keep control of their classroom.
May 29, 2008 @ 9:11 am
‘f she did, than i gotta figure she thought this is one of her last resorts’
Ummm no…
I should know.
I was removed from class ALL the time.
That’s what labeling a kid Behaviorally Disordered is for.
Special class for the bad kids.
May 29, 2008 @ 9:14 am
@Ihadno
Last year I seen this lil kid near a police station
there’s a Boys n Girls club and Police station and a library all on the same strip in the hood.
So this Kid is sitting on the ground crying he had to be 10yrs old. Fat kid any way I look up and there’s a group out kids behind him laughin and some teenager watchin wit smiles on the other side. This one lil Bastard Runs up and Kicks him in the back and then pic’s up an apple and whips it at the kid. Now the the kid won’t fight back.
So I walking up the street towards this sht
and it dawns on me that the kid won’t fight back because the boy is showing off for the teenagers and he’s scared he’ll get jumped!
So before the kid throws the apple again I dare him to throw that sht at at me, then pic the other kid up and walk him to the library.
Whole time I trying to think if that had been my son what would I have done.
Cuz I felt like fkin that lil bastard up….
May 29, 2008 @ 9:16 am
@cec
Where did you get this story from?
We need a link-y-dink on this.
May 29, 2008 @ 9:16 am
Nevermind google is faster.
May 29, 2008 @ 9:19 am
Willy
I got it from Bossip.com
May 29, 2008 @ 9:22 am
Now see…
http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2008/may/23/st-lucie-teacher-has-class-vote-whether-5-year-old/
This child might have autism.
Continuing:
May 29, 2008 @ 9:25 am
‘I got it from Bossip.com’
They’re always misreporting shit.
May 29, 2008 @ 9:25 am
So putting all the dick head kids in one class is supposed to help them ?
Putting a " I am too stoopid and retawded to playe with the otha kidz" label on his forhead ain’t gonna help his self esteem too much.
I know that there are certain guideliines that teachers and school must follow to keep shit in order because then teachers might start toosing kids out of windows and we don’t need thqat… at least not for all of them…. but what I am really keying in on here is the parents reaction. A parents responsibility is to their child and they should be worrying about how to get lil Timmy better instead of blasting the teacher as if there child is innocent. 14 out of the 16 kids wanted his ass out too ?? That doesn’t count for nothing ? We will believe lil Amanda if she said the techer touched her booty but her opinion is irrelevant when it comes to her education ?How about if that was a private school and you are paying tuition for your child to learn but some dumb ass kid is in there fucking up your money and childs education ? There are alot of angles to look at this but I am giving the teacher the benefit that she at least tried other avenues b4 it went this far. More info would allow me to form a better opinion but I gott base it on what is out there.
And were you in the special class with that sign on your forehead willy ??….
come on Willy… you can tell us… it was a long time ago…. you still came out okay….lol.
May 29, 2008 @ 9:30 am
‘A parents responsibility is to their child and they should be worrying about how to get lil Timmy better instead of blasting the teacher as if there child is innocent.’
Now read the article….
‘And were you in the special class with that sign on your forehead willy ??’
But I tested at an IQ of 163.
So I WAS special.
May 29, 2008 @ 9:31 am
So the kids really do hate his guts
I still ain’t sure that actual incident went down how the kid said it did…
but it if did the Teacher fk’d up big time….
Here’s my question
How long is the teacher who has no training or experience on how to deal with this I assume and those kids supposed to put up with that sht.
Not that I condone what was done but It’s obvious the teacher ran out of idea’s
May 29, 2008 @ 9:32 am
‘I got it from Bossip.com’
They’re always misreporting shit.
Thats true, thats why i was saying i need more information cause there is alot of grey areas
May 29, 2008 @ 9:37 am
‘but it if did the Teacher fk’d up big time….’
“Steele said the teacher confirmed the incident did occur.”
‘How long is the teacher who has no training or experience on how to deal with this I assume and those kids supposed to put up with that sht.’
But we’re talking about 5 yr olds here.
And this broad apparently has years of teaching experience, which is why they haven’t given her the swift kick yet.
May 29, 2008 @ 9:49 am
Then I am really through with the teacher.
My daughter is autistic, and although she is not severe, thank god, her being autistic does take more work and consideration than the average child, because depending on when they are assessed and treated, they lack certain socialization skills and they truly do NOT understand. If that woman actually sat in on meetings and had parents who were actively involved in their child’s schooling, and still did this to him…fuck her.
May 29, 2008 @ 9:51 am
“Steele said the teacher confirmed the incident did occur.”
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sayin it did occur and confirming how it occurred are different things
I read the article they only gave the parent and childs point of view. Its a strong argument
gives what the kids said but not how it actually went down.
Like you said their 5 their going to say what they feel.
We’re assuming that everything the kid and parent said is 100percent accurate and in order.
We’re assuming the teacher stood in front of the class as said everyone tell him one by one why you hate him.
You don’t find it hard to believe an experienced teacher with 5 yr olds did something that stupid….Knowing the kid might have autism
I not condoning it, i possible she’s an idiotand I ecknowledge based on whats said she fk’d up!
but maybe its possible she stood him in front of the class and told them to tell him what problems do they have with him. And them fustrated kids
said what the felt and used the word hate and she responded with why do you hate him.
And it went down hill from there.
we don’t know how that sht went down.
Maybe its right on the money maybe its not
and maybe her version of the story is why she’s not fired…..
just to play devils advocate
May 29, 2008 @ 9:53 am
Im wondering why these children arent in a classroom with a teacher that can focus on their specific needs
May 29, 2008 @ 9:58 am
Im wondering why these children arent in a classroom with a teacher that can focus on their specific needs
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thats what Im gettin at
being experienced and being with specials needs are different things
if what was said it 100 percent accurate
teacher fk’d up
but that kid should have been pulled if he’s diagnosed in Feb he’s been an issue since school started. He needs to be pulled like Willy mentioned and placed in a special class
May 29, 2008 @ 9:59 am
But see, if he’s on the spectrum, as the principal and the assessment will determine- that’s EXACTLY the wrong tack to take- it’s a developmental delay, it’s not just "bad behavior." So now you are exposing somebody with a disability to the "judgement" of peers who couldn’t possibly understand why they are doing what they do.
My statement stands- fuck her.
May 29, 2008 @ 10:02 am
if she isnt trained to know how to deal with him…then what else is she supposed to do. thats why im saying the fault in my opinion lies with all of the adminidtration. If u know this child has problems then im thinking, common sense would say, put him in an environment were someone with experience can handle him. this way when he goes into a fit or whatever there is someone trained to handle him.
May 29, 2008 @ 10:04 am
cec, if he is Asperger’s and generally high-functioning, then they probably don’t want to put him with other children with special needs- children, but those with ASD, especially practice "echolalia"- you put him in a class with children who are more severe, he might start mimicking their behavior.
May 29, 2008 @ 10:05 am
Banga…
read the article again.
The district investigated the incident and the teacher said it went down just like the boy said it did.
They simply can’t press charges against her.
Which is why the mother is threatening to sue.
What happened isn’t in dispute?
May 29, 2008 @ 10:14 am
actually sat in on meetings and had parents who were actively involved in their child’s schooling, and still did this to him…fuck her
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yeah… see that changes the whole aspect of it. If she knew that the kid had issues like this, fuck her….lol.
I know what autism is and I don’t know how they classify severity but I wouldn’t scold a kid for something he couldn’t control. Thats like scolding the pissy kid for peeing on his cot during naptime, he can’t control it.
But I don’t envy teachers as I don’t envy cops because they are put in so many judgement type situations that anything can happen. So every situation has to be handled differently because there are always certain factors that can have an effect on that person judgement. The teacher might have meant well but used poor judgement in solving the problem. I don’t think she should be fired but she should have some type of punishment including training. You can’t fire teachers so easy because that will discourage her peers from going the extra mile for a kid because it might get them fired.
May 29, 2008 @ 10:16 am
But I tested at an IQ of 163.
So I WAS special.
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….lol.
See thats why you are……
Prince has his sign and you have ….
I don’t even think imma call you Willy anymore…. now its just….
May 29, 2008 @ 10:18 am
The district investigated the incident and the teacher said it went down just like the boy said it did
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pull the quote
cuz it doesn’t say that
May 29, 2008 @ 10:38 am
‘The child’s mother filed a complaint with the school resource officer, who investigated the matter, said Port St. Lucie spokeswoman Michelle Steele said. But the state attorney’s office concluded the matter did not meet the criteria for emotional child abuse, so no criminal charges will be filed, Steele said. Port St. Lucie Police is no longer investigating, but is documenting the complaint, she said.
Steele said the teacher confirmed the incident did occur.’
May 29, 2008 @ 10:53 am
sidebar:
Anyone got that new Estelle?
May 29, 2008 @ 10:59 am
I read about this story yesterday… Although Kids are lil bastards these days. I dont know if it was a good idea to do the kid like this…. especially with kids getting together to tie teachers up and shit. Who know what this shit could cause. Even though if the lil boy was that bad. It was better ways to do what she did and of course the parents should also be doing enough that it shouldnt have happened.
May 29, 2008 @ 11:00 am
willy- I didn’t send it to you?
May 29, 2008 @ 11:02 am
http://www.zshare.net/download/1206461360ed892f/
Estelle- Shine
May 29, 2008 @ 11:05 am
‘The child’s mother filed a complaint with the school resource officer, who investigated the matter, said Port St. Lucie spokeswoman Michelle Steele said. But the state attorney’s office concluded the matter did not meet the criteria for emotional child abuse, so no criminal charges will be filed, Steele said. Port St. Lucie Police is no longer investigating, but is documenting the complaint, she said.
Steele said the teacher confirmed the incident did occur.’
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No where in that does it say what the parent said is definitively how it went down…
that’s an interpetation your making
you don’t have the police sayin what the parent explained matches what the teacher discribed or the writer saying both the explanations the teacher and parent gave match up.
all this says is the police investigated it and confirmed the incident occurred. The police aren’t cosigning any details. Their documenting it and calling it a day.
There’s not even a quote from the police officer you can work wit to get any additional insight.
so as I said before
if its accurate teacher fk’d up
now if you wanna say it does matter
fine
I don’t know if the attempt itself or even the concept of what she did is something all teachers are supposed to know not to do with kid with disabilities. Or is that exclusive to teachers familiar with dealing with kids wit Disabilities.
jae makes some good points.
Sounds like Jae sayin even the concept of what I think is possible have happened shouldn’t even have even been attempted..
May 29, 2008 @ 11:13 am
Banga…
Steele said the teacher confirmed the incident did occur.
What ‘details’ are there to debate…
‘Sounds like Jae sayin even the concept of what I think is possible have happened shouldn’t even have even been attempted..’
Right…
what the teacher did was inappropriate, if the kid does have autism or not.
They do not teach that at teachers school.
May 29, 2008 @ 11:14 am
@jae
My bad…
I’ma blame dig.
May 29, 2008 @ 11:17 am
The kid is white anyway so why should we care….
lil devil bastard ….
May 29, 2008 @ 11:18 am
Damn how I get blamed and Im not even in the room?
And oh yeah… for those who dont really care but might have been wondering, LOL…. got that Usher yesterday. Dont like it. Im not gonna go so far as to say it sucks, cause honestly, I have only listened to half of it AND I tend to have to hear something a couple of times before I make up my mind. But its wayyyy below the standard he is usually at. Quite frankly, I think we’ve heard the best cuts already. Even the prayer for his son interlude is wack.
But like I said, Ima give it a fair shake before I make an official ruling.
May 29, 2008 @ 11:23 am
‘Even the prayer for his son interlude is wack.’
I hate those types of shits.
‘Damn how I get blamed and Im not even in the room?’
C’mon Nippy!
May 29, 2008 @ 11:25 am
well, Banga, I deal with it every day, so I understand that it’s not always easy. (although her teachers apparently adore her, so I got lucky
- or maybe they did, because if this happened to my child, I would be beating somebody down.)
But I also understand that if you are supposedly working with the parents and principal to create a specialized lesson plan for the child, then you are also aware of his potential issues within the spectrum (it ranges from motor skills to socialization to, like my daughter, language- not every autistic child has the same characteristics). Being aware of that-recognizing his parents are active within the school system- and still encouraging the other children to do that to him out of, what, frustration…?
It’s like having my daughter stand in front of the class, and letting her fellow students complain about "why she doesn’t talk", and then voting that because she doesn’t talk and it makes them uncomfortable, she can’t stay. Then sending her to the nurse’s office to cry until I come pick her up.
Mommy would be on CTV news.
May 29, 2008 @ 11:29 am
‘I hate those types of shits’
I thought the placement of it was awkward, and it seemed forced. It wasnt heartfelt at all. Like someone suggested he put something like that on there and thats what he came up with.
May 29, 2008 @ 11:29 am
‘Then sending her to the nurse’s office to cry until I come pick her up.’
That’s really the saddest part.
I feel you jae…
I woulda had to act real bad on that woman.
May 29, 2008 @ 11:38 am
‘Like someone suggested he put something like that on there and thats what he came up with.’
I’d be wrong if I said his wife made him do it.
May 29, 2008 @ 11:41 am
The Usher joint is aight…. he set the bar so damn high with his previous joints though and this ain’t even close to Confessions.
It might grow on me but its just to "grown" for me. The Jay Z joint is horrible… its like a "30 something" remix. But I was busy while listening so I didn’t really get to hear every track thru.
Look… we get older everyday… I don’t need to pay 14.99 for you rich niggas to tell me about it.
May 29, 2008 @ 11:43 am
I’d be wrong if I said his wife made him do it.
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I just hate when artist "grow" on their projects. Give the fans what they want and grow on your own time nigga….. I got chicks to bang…..
May 29, 2008 @ 11:46 am
‘Give the fans what they want and grow on your own time nigga….. I got chicks to bang…..’
May 29, 2008 @ 11:48 am
I just hate when artist "grow" on their projects. Give the fans what they want and grow on your own time nigga….. I got chicks to bang…..
uh uh
May 29, 2008 @ 11:48 am
Steele said the teacher confirmed the incident did occur.
What ‘details’ are there to debate
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Doesn’t mean their cosigning all the details mentioned.
she filed a complaint they investigated it and said it did happen
how is that saying every detail she told you about how it happened is true. SMH
Just means it happened they not confirming nor cosigning how accurate what was said is.
That assumption is rediculous by this process of thought.
If you get into a fight and the person you beef wit files a complaint and the reporter interviews him and saying you started it you said A, b and C happened and you hit him wit a 2 piece and a biscuit. Then they go to the police and the police say we investigated it, this did happen. Then I guess they have the whole story. No point in asking you sht right…
Why should the reporter even bother right.
you can’t be serious
and I guess your an expert on what teachers are supposed to learn or know.
I made that mistake at my current job when I first started. Thinking Agents understand the products they should right common sense duh…
nope the jus enough to sell the product. Its why the elderly put their money in so many bad investments.
so I don’t assume because that what we’re doing unless you have 1st hand knowledge as Jae appears to have…. That all teachers have had or are required to have classes and be familiar with how to deal with kids with disabilities…
I don’t but I know enough not to assume so Im asking. Since we’re doing so much assuming already…
May 29, 2008 @ 11:55 am
‘Just means it happened they not confirming nor cosigning how accurate what was said is.’
You’re gonna make me paste that sentence again.
If you’re beefin over the use of the word ‘confirmed’?
There is nothing in the article that suggest there is a dispute in the facts of what happened.
The child was in fact voted out of class.
How he got there is kinda like trying to find any excuse to give this teacher a pass of some sort.
‘and I guess your an expert on what teachers are supposed to learn or know.’
Whoa.
You’re right…I’m not an expert.
But today I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that NO, public humiliation of a 5yrold is not a part of teachers college.
May 29, 2008 @ 11:57 am
Even the prayer for his son interlude is wack.
Now how you gon give a thumbs down on the prayer…. Straight to hell
May 29, 2008 @ 12:02 pm
Now how you gon give a thumbs down on the prayer…. Straight to hell
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You eva heard one of DMX’s "prayers"….
May 29, 2008 @ 12:06 pm
‘You eva heard one of DMX’s “prayers”‘
What U bitches want from a nigga?
Oh wait…
**Does the Sisqo at my desk**
May 29, 2008 @ 12:08 pm
I see where Banga is coming from but
has a point also. If the teacher knew that the kid had behavioral issues, voting him out the class is wrong no matter what her intention is. You can’t treat that kid like the others so you can’t apply the same type of formula for diciplining ( i hate that fucking word !!!) him. But I think there are somethings that didn’t totally come out because the fact that they report should have had that teacher fired. Somehow, someway I think they worked something out because she prolly meant well and we are only getting the summary of events instead of a step by step version of what happened. You know what they report is usually missing some pieces.
May 29, 2008 @ 12:09 pm
You eva heard one of DMX’s "prayers"….
Man that shit is a true shame…. Slippin wasnt just a song its a way of life for that nigga
May 29, 2008 @ 12:10 pm
Im trippin you calling Willy
May 29, 2008 @ 12:13 pm
"Now I lay me down to sleep
i pray the lord, my soul to keep….
blah balh blah blah…
no more sipping gin and juice"
Oh yeah…. if any of yall have HD service, check your cable to see if you have MHD (MUSIC HD). They run concert specials all day like old MTV Unplugged and Storytellers….. I’ve already caught like 2 Badu concerts and couple of Jill Scotts. I was watching GORILLAZ COME TO HARLEM last night and those dudes are the fucking shit….. I swear I am gonna go to their next concert out here. They found a way to bring out…gulp….. Neneh Cherry,Ike Turner,De La Soul, MF DOOM and I only got thru the 1st hour. Imma watch the rest tonight if I get a chance.
May 29, 2008 @ 12:15 pm
Man I like the Gorillaz too… good music homie
May 29, 2008 @ 12:17 pm
There is nothing in the article that suggest there is a dispute in the facts of what happened.
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there’s no interview from anyone who would
just the parent the child and the a confirm it happened….
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But today I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that NO, public humiliation of a 5yrold is not a part of teachers college.
I guess you were in the classroom
A veteran teacher definitely stood in front of a whole class risking her job and future employment intentionally to humilate a 5yr old
open and shut case. And said ok class tell him why you hate him
Its possible it happened lets all jump to conclusions based on one side of the story.
sounds tempting.
Doesn’t matter she’s supposed to know as a teacher not to even go there…
soundslike a safe assumption……
But u don’t know for sure and I seen these assumptions blow up in peoples faces
I’ll stay reserved till I know more
sorry I can stay reserved, that’s not allowed
since when……
May 29, 2008 @ 12:17 pm
You eva heard one of DMX’s "prayers"….
I have and there actually kinda scary.
May 29, 2008 @ 12:18 pm
comment by cjp :
May 29, 2008 @ 12:10 pm
Im trippin you calling Willy
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is the matrix.
….lol.
that nigga
Nigga built this site… e-bones Dig … supports Mike Gravel and still has the time to
Plus the nigga is a Prince fiend so I know he got a kick out of it…lol….
He’s lucky I ain’t call him
May 29, 2008 @ 12:21 pm
Neneh Cherry
Old school crushin.
I’m pretty sure we get that channel?
Maybe…
HD Net does that shit too.
Anyone catch Damien Marley on Austin City Limits?
Kinda fire. His backup singers get it in.
May 29, 2008 @ 12:21 pm
Uh oh…. Banga is acting lightskinededed again….lol….
Give these niggas just a hint that they are coming back and see what you get ???
May 29, 2008 @ 12:23 pm
‘A veteran teacher definitely stood in front of a whole class risking her job and future employment intentionally to humilate a 5yr old
open and shut case.’
Steele said the teacher confirmed the incident did occur.
LMAO @ ihadno…
May 29, 2008 @ 12:25 pm
You eva heard one of DMX’s "prayers"….
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What? they are powerful and touching.
side bar: he and tashera are seperating. first bobby and whitney, now this… wtf are we supposed to do for crackhead power couples?
May 29, 2008 @ 12:29 pm
@iHADNO
THANKS
and I ecknowledge Willy may have a point
and I don’t undermine that point but Jae has first hand knowledge….
and I’m not tossin someone under the bus off an assumption not based on ist hand knowledge…
Its like sayin Banga your dumb for not makin the same assumption and I reserve the right to be reserved because I think the veteran teacher wouldn’t be that stupid/negligent…
Im not absolving the teacher of spit
May 29, 2008 @ 12:35 pm
Well look at it this way… At least the Teacher didnt get pregnant by the lil boy… cause that would have been a whole other issue.
May 29, 2008 @ 12:37 pm
@
I try to DVR some of the HD NET ones but MHD has a lot better artists. They had the Rock Corps special with your favorite rapper Nas and Game and TI. I found that shit by mistake last week.
May 29, 2008 @ 12:37 pm
‘Now how you gon give a thumbs down on the prayer…. Straight to hell’
You lucky Im not at home. I woulda had to upload it [read: have Willy upload it LOL] so you could hear it for yourself. When you hear it, you will know exactly what I mean LOL.
Ihadno: Im wit you. A lotta artists NEED to grow cause their shit is mediocre at best, but Usher aint need to do shit else but what he knows best. Im glad he done calmed down on the personal level and feelin all adult and shit, but keep that shit in the house.
May 29, 2008 @ 12:41 pm
Man we all know that Confessions was Ushers Thriller…. Thats it. He is not getting better than that. He might do good but not that good anymore. Every artist tastes that at least once in their career… Just think aobut it. Everyone has had a Triller type album….
May 29, 2008 @ 12:46 pm
‘Everyone has had a Triller type album….’
Negative.
May 29, 2008 @ 12:47 pm
Man we all know that Confessions was Ushers Thriller…. Thats it. He is not getting better than that. He might do good but not that good anymore. Every artist tastes that at least once in their career… Just think aobut it. Everyone has had a Triller type album….
Which is prob why he passed the torch off to Chris Brown. i agree even the greats were at the top and then after a certain time ….they just started making feel good music and stopped giving a fuck about doing as well as they had. It just seems like nowadays u hit that peak at a early age
May 29, 2008 @ 12:50 pm
It just seems like nowadays u hit that peak at a early age
Thats because music is not like it use to be…but hey that was then and this is now so I guess we have to deal with it.
May 29, 2008 @ 12:51 pm
But the thing is, innovation is the kiss of death for a lotta artists. Especially after a certain point, which Usher is CERTAINLY past. He’s made enough highly revered music that fuckin with the formula is not gon be a good look. And like I said, I cant say it sucks… yet… but its not the type of shit we’re used to from him. Being different is overrated. If I want something different, I’ll
burnbuy something different.May 29, 2008 @ 12:52 pm
Negative.
Yes…Dig
Most have had that Big Break through album… that doesnt mean that wont sell alot but It just wont match up to the Album that took them to that Spot…
May 29, 2008 @ 12:55 pm
Let me see how smart Willy isMay 29, 2008 @ 12:57 pm
You know what after about 7 glasses Vodka taste like… Fuck it after 7 glasses you really dont give a fuck what it taste like…. trust me.
May 29, 2008 @ 12:57 pm
Not of that caliber, CJP. Not EVERY artist. Hell, not MOST artists. Yeah they might have one album that did the best out of all the ones they recorded but if ‘the best’ is barely going Gold, that shit aint cuttin the mustard.
May 29, 2008 @ 12:58 pm
‘Its like sayin Banga your dumb for not makin the same assumption’
No. Never that.
Just sayin that from my reading of the article, shit went down like the boy said. That’s all.
@ihadno
Music HD…
I’ma check the channel guide and see what’s up…
they got 1000 channels on this bitch.
May 29, 2008 @ 12:59 pm
He pisses on lil girls and all that but R.KELLY has had about 4 or 5 thrillers…lol.
Thats the one constant in black music right now… love him or hate him but he comes with it every fucking time and he don’t fuck up his formula….
The nigga been doing it damn near 18 years without a hitch…..well that is untill now… maybe…
May 29, 2008 @ 1:00 pm
definitive work of art.
Speaking of MJ…
that walnut headed nigga Ne-Yo is upping his MJ ante now. Anyone seen his new video???
He’s really copycatting now.
May 29, 2008 @ 1:02 pm
Thats because music is not like it use to be…but hey that was then and this is now so I guess we have to deal with it.
yea cause we in an age that dont care about talent, u cant sing thats ok we got machines that can help with that….just take ur shirt off and grab ur dick on stage or rub ur titties and ur good …thats the age we live in now
May 29, 2008 @ 1:04 pm
that walnut headed nigga Ne-Yo is upping his MJ ante now. Anyone seen his new video???
Willy congrats..u actually got a chuckle out of sour ass today. That was funny
May 29, 2008 @ 1:06 pm
Not of that caliber, CJP.
Well if we are talking caliber then no… I was in the mind of that big sale….that album that the artist will always be connected to. The quality of music is not that good to really have it talked about in the caliber dept….
AN RKelly… shouldnt be talked about unless everyone in the room has a wet nap or towel or something… Just to wipe up.
May 29, 2008 @ 1:09 pm
‘Willy congrats..u actually got a chuckle out of sour ass today. That was funny’
‘AN RKelly… shouldnt be talked about unless everyone in the room has a wet nap or towel or something… Just to wipe up.’
May 29, 2008 @ 1:10 pm
yea cause we in an age that dont care about talent, u cant sing thats ok we got machines that can help with that….just take ur shirt off and grab ur dick on stage or rub ur titties and ur good …thats the age we live in now
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I guess thats why i really dont buy new music like that. I know its some good artist out there but you have to get through the bull to hear them. Im too old for that nigga with his shirt off singing about fucking
May 29, 2008 @ 1:11 pm
‘Well if we are talking caliber then no’
Then how bout we just leave Thriller and any other MJ references out of it, mmkay? LOL
May 29, 2008 @ 1:15 pm
Then how bout we just leave Thriller and any other MJ references out of it, mmkay? LOL
No dammit… I put it up there to speak on sales and the crossover.
May 29, 2008 @ 1:16 pm
I dig Neyo but the nigga sounds the same on every song and now he got the people he writes for sounding like him. And that MJ 2 step has to be put to rest already…lol.
DREAM borrows from R.KElly just lil bit huh…..
May 29, 2008 @ 1:17 pm
‘Im too old for that nigga with his shirt off singing about fucking’
Stop Lyin…
ain’t you got a video shoot for your album next week nigga?
May 29, 2008 @ 1:19 pm
I guess thats why i really dont buy new music like that. I know its some good artist out there but you have to get through the bull to hear them. Im too old for that nigga with his shirt off singing about fucking
i agree!
i just drove past 2 kids who looked at me like i was fucking crazy cause i had the windows rolled down blasting evelyn Champagne King and ill do it again. Im over most of the shit i hear nowadays
May 29, 2008 @ 1:20 pm
I don’t buy shit anymore unless its somebody like Styles P or Prodigy. I feel guilty downloading an album that sold styrofoam. Its like robbing a homeless person even though them dudes make more money than I do….. wait… that don’t make no damn sense……….
Let me re-phrase that… The LAST album that I bought and will ever buy was HNIC2 by Prodigy…lol
May 29, 2008 @ 1:21 pm
‘I put it up there to speak on sales and the crossover.’
Then again, my point stands. Your best album aint necessary doing tremendous numbers. There are artists, whose fans celebrate "their definitive work," who have never even gone platinum. I bet you can think of five artists right now who we associate with one specific album whose careers are/were still pretty lackluster.
May 29, 2008 @ 1:22 pm
Stop Lyin…
ain’t you got a video shoot for your album next week nigga?
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CJP is all about the showmanship… that the only reason…but that nigga is just a character… An thats it.
Got speak that nigga in third person…
May 29, 2008 @ 1:23 pm
May 29, 2008 @ 1:24 pm
I bet you can think of five artists right now who we associate with one specific album whose careers are/were still pretty lackluster.
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I only got one….ROCKWELL.
Smarty pants ass nigga…. you know a nigga still a lil salty.
May 29, 2008 @ 1:25 pm
down blasting evelyn Champagne King and ill do it again. Im over most of the shit i hear nowadays
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When "love come down" comes on… everything must stop. And don’t get me started on Fonda Rae
Let me tell you this much… there is no better music than music from the 80’s. It was all poppin in the 80’s… rock, pop, r&B…. everything in the 80’s seemed to have that "stank" on it…lol.
May 29, 2008 @ 1:27 pm
"Betcha she don’t love you….
Like the way I love you…
AWWW shit Cec…. you done opened up some shit….lol.
May 29, 2008 @ 1:28 pm
An if I hear that "In the Club" remix on mo damn time Im gonna stab a DJ right in his damn Solar plexus
May 29, 2008 @ 1:30 pm
‘everything in the 80’s seemed to have that “stank” on it…lol.’
May 29, 2008 @ 1:30 pm
I only got one….ROCKWELL.
When "love come down" comes on… everything must stop. And don’t get me started on Fonda Rae
Let me tell you this much… there is no better music than music from the 80’s. It was all poppin in the 80’s… rock, pop, r&B…. everything in the 80’s seemed to have that "stank" on it…lol.
See i like 70s and 80s but yea back in the 80s the music so hype but that coulda been cause i was wopping the shit out of everything. I cant think of a song that i wasnt bustin a sweat from.
May 29, 2008 @ 1:31 pm
Then again, my point stands. Your best album aint necessary doing tremendous numbers. There are artists, whose fans celebrate "their definitive work," who have never even gone platinum. I bet you can think of five artists right now who we associate with one specific album whose careers are/were still pretty lackluster
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The whole Wu Tang except for Ghostface…lol.
The whole D block except Kiss….lol.
I was watching Erykah Badu perform a few days ago and it got me thinking that this chick been out for about 10 years and I can still see her packing houses for another 10 or 15 years.
May 29, 2008 @ 1:31 pm
Let me tell you this much… there is no better music than music from the 80’s.
I think it had something to do with how niggas was getting rich off that disco shit… folks came hard in the 80’s… ie Duran Duran.
May 29, 2008 @ 1:33 pm
‘I only got one….ROCKWELL.’
Oh come on now, all the artists in the world and all we hear about CONSTANTLY is Usher and Beyonce? LOL There’s only a handful of folks we’d categorize as ‘big’ but we can still associate people NOT in that category to some album in particular.
Take Daniel Powter. Aint NObody tallkin bout that nigga, but when you say his name, most people who know his name know it cause of "Bad Day" (the American Idol take-yo-ass-home song from a couple years ago) LOL.
May 29, 2008 @ 1:34 pm
It just seems like nowadays u hit that peak at a early age
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thats because back in the day, you had to actually hone a craft and get the people behind you on some homegrown shit. now all you need is a hot sample and the right ghostwriter (and/or a sex tape) and *snap* you’re put on….
please tell me no one sees chris brown and rihanna doing a tour in thier 60s.. headlining in vegas in 20 years … b2k doing a reunion tour in 2040…. but then again, nkotb is doing a reunion, so pigs already grew wings, its just a matter of time before they start flying the friendly skies…
May 29, 2008 @ 1:35 pm
I think it had something to do with how niggas was getting rich off that disco shit… folks came hard in the 80’s… ie Duran Duran
and dont 4get morris day, cause damnit every song this nigga sing about he telling u how rich he was. It could be from his pimping days but idk
Looks at P- have we seen Purple Rain yet?
May 29, 2008 @ 1:35 pm
See i like 70s and 80s but yea back in the 80s the music so hype but that coulda been cause i was wopping the shit out of everything. I cant think of a song that i wasnt bustin a sweat from.
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White people had a lot of soul all the way up until the 90’s…lol. Niggas was rocking to the Police and Madonna… Hall and Oates ….. I can’t listent to the 70’s or 90’s station on satelite radio for more than 3 or 4 songs b4 one comes on that I am not feeling. I can throw a fucking party with the 80’s channel…fuck an Ipod.
OH MICKEY YOU SO FINE YOU SO FINE YOU BLOW MY MIND HEY MICKEY….lol… WTF ????
That shit was HOT !!!
May 29, 2008 @ 1:38 pm
OH MICKEY YOU SO FINE YOU SO FINE YOU BLOW MY MIND HEY MICKEY….lol… WTF ????
That shit was HOT !!!
Do u know the dance? Cause it dont mean NOTHING if u dont know the dance now
May 29, 2008 @ 1:39 pm
Shit…
RZA does lots of work outside of Wu though…
so longterm, he’ll have an actual legacy of work to look back on.
May 29, 2008 @ 1:40 pm
yall remember that white dude, i cannot remember his name, its on the tip of my tongue, that came out and everyone thought he was black cause he sounded like a brothah.
Never gonna give u up…never gonna make u cry…never gonna turn around and …hurt u
Thats was my song
May 29, 2008 @ 1:40 pm
Oh come on now, all the artists in the world and all we hear about CONSTANTLY is Usher and Beyonce?
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Yeah its more than them i agree…but you acting like you got a problem with ROCKWELL…now im now about to split hairs on this…
Dont turn this into a Marshmallow incident.
May 29, 2008 @ 1:44 pm
@cec
Rick Astley…
May 29, 2008 @ 1:45 pm
‘Never gonna give u up…never gonna make u cry…never gonna turn around and …hurt u ‘
Rick Astley I think his name was.
May 29, 2008 @ 1:46 pm
‘but you acting like you got a problem with ROCKWELL…’
and Im acting like that…….how?
May 29, 2008 @ 1:47 pm
Looks at P- have we seen Purple Rain yet?
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looks back at cec
no, and what?!
May 29, 2008 @ 1:47 pm
Thanks Dig and Willy - Yep that was his name
matter of fact ima download that song
May 29, 2008 @ 1:48 pm
looks at P-
we gonna HAVE to have a girls nite tribute to Prince for u chile.
May 29, 2008 @ 1:49 pm
What yall know about Lisa Stansfield (sp?)….
Been around the world an IIII
I cant find my baby…
May 29, 2008 @ 1:53 pm
‘What yall know about Lisa Stansfield’
You know what? I HATED that song.
Then it got old and people stopped thinkin about it and THEN I liked it.
May 29, 2008 @ 1:53 pm
Shit…
Taylor Dayne has some new shit out I think.
Was ridin with my auntie yesterday, and Taylor came on the radio. It might of been older shit…but it sounded newish to me.
May 29, 2008 @ 1:57 pm
Then it got old and people stopped thinkin about it and THEN I liked it.
Damn shame….just gotta be different.
May 29, 2008 @ 1:58 pm
Willy - Yeah she do. I dont like it. And I LOVED Taylor Dane.
She done cut her hair all up and got a makeover, lost a couple pounds… but just a couple
But she tryin to sound young and its not a good look.
May 29, 2008 @ 1:58 pm
‘What yall know about Lisa Stansfield’
You know what? I HATED that song
I did 2 and hated even more when she remixed with Barry White (i wasnt a fan of him either) But now that im older i like her song but i still dont like the remix
May 29, 2008 @ 2:00 pm
Somebody quickly tell me who Taylor Dayne is? Im sure i know her musid
May 29, 2008 @ 2:01 pm
‘but just a couple’
Now see…
May 29, 2008 @ 2:02 pm
Cjp- U don made me find Rockwell in my Ipod
Thanks
May 29, 2008 @ 2:03 pm
Barry White (i wasnt a fan of him either)
Hold up…Flag on the play. Clipping on the offense. How you gon sit up there and not like Barry white. Dude got some ringers….
Then around about 2
tell you what im gonna do
Im gonna take you home
An stick plenty love to you…
May 29, 2008 @ 2:04 pm
Cjp- U don made me find Rockwell in my Ipod
Its says Rockwell but that Mike song….
May 29, 2008 @ 2:04 pm
"Love will lead you baaack…. some day I just knoooow that love will lead you back to my arms… "
May 29, 2008 @ 2:05 pm
Oh and "Tell it to my heart. Tell me Im the only one. Is this really love or just a gaaaame"
Im jammin.
May 29, 2008 @ 2:11 pm
Hold up…Flag on the play. Clipping on the offense. How you gon sit up there and not like Barry white. Dude got some ringers….
Im sorry dude has one song i like. Maybe its because my great grandmother aint have no quarms about telling everyone that she wanted to jump his bones and i got turned off and pissed at the same time. IDK but dudes irritates me
May 29, 2008 @ 2:17 pm
" I may not be a laadddyy…
But I’m all woman…..
from monday thru sunday…
I work my finger to the bone..
I’m no classy lady….
but I’m all woman….
This woman needs a man
to make her strrrronnnng"….
That was my LISA STANSFIELD shit.
May 29, 2008 @ 2:18 pm
ok yall im going to the dentist, ttyl tro
May 29, 2008 @ 2:18 pm
Man that song was the shit right there…
May 29, 2008 @ 2:20 pm
The Best of Barry White is a classic……
But is there a better collabo in the history of R&B better than "Secret Garden".
"If you think I am gonna make love to you
if you think I got what you need…
SHO YA RIGHT"
May 29, 2008 @ 3:27 pm
"If you think I am gonna make love to you
if you think I got what you need…
SHO YA RIGHT"
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i cant even THINK about that lyric and not need a change of panties…
*has flashbacks*