I been on a Memorial Day Hiatus. I caught this lil story on another blog site called brownsista.com - I don't think it is 100% true but I do think it hold a lot of merit. As I am working on my Masters I have been toying with a million topics about race and pop culture - this is one that caught my eye and could be a possible candidate for one of my topics.
What's your take?
Fellow blogger Clay Kane wrote an interesting piece on his site that got me to thinking about an article I started writing some months ago but eventually abandoned. Clay, in his article, wonders why there are so few Black women on the Billboard charts but quite a few White women who have what I like to call that Black Girl Flava? Now some time ago I predicted that the influx of White women into r&b music, with the help of Black male producers, would lead to the demise of Black women on the charts. And now that the chickens have essentially come home to roost, I think now is the perfect time to talk about why only Beyonce and Corrine Bailey Rae- who is biracial- are the only two so called Black women who have songs in the Hot 100.
Now the first thing we are going to have to do is realize that the replacement of Black women on the charts is linked to the replacement of Black women in other areas as well. And even though sistas many not be dominating the charts as we once did, women who sing, dance and basically have been taught to emulate us are. But I am getting a bit ahead of myself so let's go back a bit.
The replacement of Black women in our community, via it radio, television or video is nothing new. Just think about BET which is only about 25 years. Like most Black stations it hired Black women. Naturally they were all fair, but they were at least Black. The new BET however seems to only hire Hispanic women. All the sistas have been replaced and as always- no one says a thing.
The music video is another place where you used to see Black women paired with Black men. This is natural right? Well apparently for us it is not which is why again, you see the once light-skin and occasional brown skin sista, has now been replaced with Hispanic, Asian and even White women. Don't act like you didn't notice the lack of sistas in recently released videos by Fabulous and Bobby Valentino.
Sad isn't it?
Quick question. Why can't black and brown skin men be paired with black and brown skinned women? Why does it seem the Black woman is seen as an un-natural choice to play the love interest of Black men in their videos?
Moving right along.
Print ads. I was browsing through Vibe some months ago and the hip hop clothing ads 
immediately popped out at me. What I noticed as always were displays of wealthy, formerly from the hood brothas, who had now made it. Making it as seen in these ads involve money, cars, a fabulous house- and a woman who doesn't look a damn thing like the man in the ad or any woman in his family. Success as it is being sold to Black males does not include Black and brown females.
Diddy's ads in particular are a clear indicator of this. The original ads for his Unforgivable fragrance showed him with not one but two women- one White the other Asian. Fame and success are once again linked to women who are not Black- and who doesn't want all the trappings of fame and success?
Rap and R n' B videos are nothing but visual dreams of the perfect Black man's life and we- Black women- are almost always absent in that dream. We have been replaced.
This leads me right back to the absence of Black women on the charts but not their style and flava. Polow da Don Coon even bragged in King Magazine that he was the first to "Take White girls to Black clubs and give them that flava". Black girl flava that is. He took them to the clubs to watch how the Black girls do it because history has show us time and time again, that White people who can emulate Black people will sell more records. Just ask Elvis and Eminem.
To keep the music thing going. Can anyone explain Amy addicted to heroin Winehouse to me? This toothless White woman has gotten ten times more press and attention on Black sites than India Arie and Heather Headley combined when they released their albums. Even an ugly White woman can get more support from Black folks than 2 dark skin Black sistas.
Yes I said it. The color issue. We never want to talk about it but we know it exists and Clay asked in his article as well if many sistas were being kept off the charts because of their brown and black coloring. I say hell yeah! and someone else seems to agree with me.
So until we can admit to ourselves that for years we have been replacing Black women with watered down multi-racial versions of other women we will never see and understand why Black women are disappearing from television, radio, print, video and everything else in between. There has always been a movement to devalue Blackness and Black women in particular. This move included exalting fair complected women to the heights of beauty in our communities. But here is the problem. Those women were only used because they resembled White women. But they are no longer needed as the real thing can now be had. So this is why not even being light skin is enough these days.
Ten years from now there won't be another Beyonce. Just as Britney Spears (before she went psycho) was catapulted to fame because she could dance Black (Y'all didn't fall for those Madonna comparisons did you? Even Britney herself admitted to cloning Janet) so shall other White artists male and female. But things always start with us. No one bats an eyelash when Black women are replaced and if Black women themselves complain they are accused of being jealous.
So sit back and let that rotate through your cerebellum for a bit. The truth hurts- but somebody has got to tell it.
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May 30, 2007 @ 10:30 am
I have to agree. Its been that way for a long time and for a minute there, it appeared to be getting better. You were seeing not only more black women in videos, but you were also seeing more full-figured women and even some not so attractive ones. But I think those videos stood out as markers - people were consciously making an effort to use folks not stereotypical - and before long, what I thought might be a movement just faded to black.
As far as the actual music… its been cool to be a non-black person capable of so-called ‘black associated’ things for a while now. Look at the beatbox phenomenon (no Blake).
May 30, 2007 @ 12:55 pm
I dunno…I see plenty of dark skinned sistas in videos…
I mean…
And everybody acknowledges that Kelly is the ‘fine’ DC member.
May 30, 2007 @ 12:59 pm
But I think the point is - how much ‘credt’ is the world giving Kelly aside from all the fellas that lust after her as a beautiful woman?
May 30, 2007 @ 1:05 pm
Well…if she’d hurry up and drop another album, and it’s good, then maybe she’ll get some.
Being fine ain’t enough at the end of the day. Gotta move some product at some point outside of DC, or do something else.
But her skin tone isn’t the problem.
**cough**Matthew Knowles**cough**
May 30, 2007 @ 1:09 pm
Kelly was just an example cause you brought her name up. I think its valid to say a lot of the sistas that are legitimately doing well get very little accolades for it…. but then ‘doing well’ is subject to interpretation.
May 30, 2007 @ 1:16 pm
Now all of a suddne there are no sistas in videos. I think I said something about this before. Black women complain about how they are being portrayed in music videos but this person writes that there are none…
Which one is it ?
I don’t put race in everything although it does make a difference but this aint’ one of them.
R&B is going thru a phase just like hip hop is. Its not what it used to be. We used to have Women like Whitney Houston and Janet JKackson that had that crossover appeal but now all we have is Beyonce. What woman out right now can do what Whitney, Janet, Beyonce,Diana,Maria, Mary J can do. We had a couple of nice transitional artist like Brandy,Mya and Monica but they flamed out amidst turmoil. Aaliyah and Left Eye passed and all we have to show for them is Ciara ???
If you understood the change in the music business as far as artist development than this topic would not be looked at as a race issue. Instead of embracing our positive influence on white america, all we can do is complain. I hate that shit with a passion. It makes us seem like fucking crybabies. Like we can’t handel stress without playing the fucking race card. We used to have pride. Some assholes look at Xtina as a biter of R&B by saying she is TRYING TO ACT BLACK when in fact her influences in musc were majority balck so what the fuck is she supposed to sound like ? Should she sing the way she does and be influenced by Mellisa Etheridge and Madonna ?
Black people… stand on your own fucking two feet and stop asking these crackers for a fucking handout. Its bullshit like this that always makes white people look at us like we are helpless.
So the fuck what Diddy had an asian bitch in his video. Arent they people too ? Don’t they use money to buy products ?
Hasn’t anybody realized that black culture has spread beyond your fucking hood ? No one watched that Pavlik/Miranda fight to hear 70 year old Larry merchant say "the fight was gonna be crunk" ??
I hate to sound like a KKK memeber but is there any way to please these niggers ??
May 30, 2007 @ 1:21 pm
‘but then ‘doing well’ is subject to interpretation.’
India.Arie - second album didn’t do as well as the first - why? Shit…I dunno. I haven’t listened to it. She certainly gets industry respect for her ability. She’s not a scrub. But she’s not a pop artist either.
Tweet - ditto on her album. Why? Fucked up second half of the album + lack of label support = no love. Had a hot single, then a dumb T.V. theme…fell off the face of the earth after that. Found jesus last I knew?
Jill Scott (for a ‘thick’ example) - gets mad industry respect, but she’s not a pop artist either.
Corrine Bailey Rae is more ‘pop’ than all three of them. And more of a musician than Beyonce.(and she got the Oprah blessing). I don’t think it’s because she light skinned. She’s just different being British and all that.
But back to the post specifically (cuz I read it a second time for clarity)
Diddy made that choice on purpose to appeal to a broader market…right, wrong? I woulda had myself in those ads wit 20 different types of broads…but that’s just me.
May 30, 2007 @ 1:23 pm
I dont think thats the point he/she is making. I think this person is sayin that there is a preference toward ‘black substitutes’ over the real thing. Its not quintessentially a ‘race issue’ but because it has those comparison undertones, its gonna come up that way. Aint nobody marching on Washington bout this shit, but when its the topic of conversation, you cant deny there is a little bit of truth to it. More importantly, the question is do we even care that this is the case? When music is supposed to be universal, should it even matter?
May 30, 2007 @ 1:24 pm
Anybody who knows industry knows the power of the black dollar. White people know this even more than we do. You think Cadillac and GM have Fat Joe, Mary J,T.I. etc down with them for the fucking ambiance ?
The problem is that the black female artist we have now don’t have any star power. Thedy are fucking boring. Kelly is cute but boring. And when Kelly Rowland becomes the topic of a black artist not being able to maximize her potential that should be self explanatory. Nobody here can even name a good song by one of the Supremes not named Diana.
India Arie is strait boring and that bitch look like she don’t even use deodorant and she is supposed to be the next big thing… GTFOH.
May 30, 2007 @ 1:27 pm
India Arie is not boring! She’s……deep, LOL.
May 30, 2007 @ 1:29 pm
Ima respond to this in detail
1st this ain’t about race its about money and Payola
Bottom White people Equal money in this country and it is selling out and its why so many artforms that once they reach a certain level of popularity. Black as well as white labels pretty much take it and try to incorporate white america into it to turn it into a much bigger cash cow. Its happening to Hip hop it happened to R&b, Don’t sleep dance hall will be next seeeeee Gwen Stefani who will be the next to go that route if not Fergi
Reasons are some of our Producers like Timberland don’t care about culture or presevering sht. This is a business and its going to go where the monies at. Labels are about culture they about money and awards. Tim tells ngz straight out if you not signed to me. Unless your a platinuim artist I ain’t fkin wit you and he only does music for artist that sell which is damn near the mantality of the entire industry.
I wanna sympathize but this ain’t going anywhere ever cause white america makes up 70 percent of the American population. If you think with a business mind your always gonna cater to their financial demographic
May 30, 2007 @ 1:30 pm
@Dig…
"Music is supposed to be universal"…
Was that PSA part of your probation agreement…lol.
Ain’t nothing ever the way its supposed to be. All music ain’t universal. I just heard a song called "hey bebe" and ain’t nothing universal about that bullshit…lol.
You say substitutes but who are they sustituting. The only color that matter here is green and if you have to promote white people to get mre gree than thats what it is. Business knows onlyt one color… green.
If we are such a big part of the buying public, we have to ask ourselves why we don’t support our own artists. That has nothing to do with propaganda and such. We like what we like. How many of yall went out and bought a fucking Maroon 5 CD and din’t pick up that Tanks joint yet ?
May 30, 2007 @ 1:32 pm
‘How many of yall went out and bought a fucking Maroon 5 CD’
:lookscared:
Not I.
Ladies?
May 30, 2007 @ 1:37 pm
Ok I think i touched on this last week… Its just how America has changed…A young Aretha Franklin Gladis Knight or Dionne Warwick couldnt sell right now cause we are so into apperance… it seems that it really does not have to do with alot of talent just the way you look. But I must say Xtina and Amy Winehouse an Joss Stone do have amazing talent… But do we forget about our own? I dont know
May 30, 2007 @ 1:38 pm
ihadno: Thats not me saying that, thats what ‘the world’ has been saying since the beginning of time, and the question was rhetorical. Further more, I think it is universal, but as with anything else, everything aint for everybody. Not EVERY black person gon be feeling Tank. Not EVERY white person digs Maroon 5. But for the record, I happen to have both. You can never make a blanket statement thats gon cover every base, so my point is that although there are some valid points being raised on her side of the argument as well as elsewhere, who cares?
Im not gon stop watchin videos cause there aint nobody that look like me in em. I will, however, stop watching them shits cause they all fuckin look the same, with different artists damn cut and pasted in them bitches.
Im not gon stop listening to Kelly Clarkson and Joss Stone and Amy Winehouse cause they have soulful voices thats supposed to be reserved for black people. But I will stop listening to their asses when they stop making shit that I like.
People like to oversimplify stuff when its not prudent to do so. At the end of the day, dont none of it matter cause people still gon buy, watch and listen to what they like. Period.
May 30, 2007 @ 1:39 pm
@Trojan…
I don’t iunderstand why people don’t get that shit. Business caters to the buying public. You name one "not for profit" record label and we can start this convo on the right foot. We got real racial issues going on here. Write about the laws that effect us. Write about race and education and how it effect us. Write about Blacks and the healthcare system.
But peppering this bullshit up there with real racial issues is a bullshit smokescreen.
WE ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO WALK INTO ANY RECORD STORE AND BY WHAT WE WANT… PERIOD.
We all don’t have that same right when it comes to education,healthcare, and quality of life….
This is why I don’t march for shit.
May 30, 2007 @ 1:39 pm
willyjsimmons wrote:
‘How many of yall went out and bought a fucking Maroon 5 CD’
I havent gotten it but i want to…. Im into bands…niggas that play there own instruments…from the Roots to Green Day. I just wish it was more Black Bands like it use to be… I dont know what happen it seem like we stop playing instruments.
May 30, 2007 @ 1:44 pm
This is why I don’t march for shit.
Here…Here.
An tell Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson that shit too…
May 30, 2007 @ 1:45 pm
Naw but Maroon 5 does suck.
Seriously.
I don’t care how ‘cute’ the lead singer supposedly is…they’re garbage.
sidebar: Gwen and No Doubt were a ska band when it was out of fashion to be one. It was 10 years after the fact that they blew up.
Now throw that Maroon 5 CD away dig.
May 30, 2007 @ 1:46 pm
@ Dig..
My bad.. I ain’t tryna put you and KSH in that bunch but I hear bullshit like this at least twice a week.
People wanna hate Justin because of his black influence but if that is what he grew up listening too, embrace that as black culture become more than black culture into american culture.We see these white kids waling aroubnd with their pants hanging off their asses and its just imitating what they like, we all have done it and will continue to do so. Amy Winehouse has been out for a long time. I’ve been into her ever since she performed at a Roots concert here in NY back in 03′. You can hear a person influence in theior music regardless of color. Put Justin, Neyo and Usher side by side and its obvious who there biggest influence is…. why wouold they sound different/
It just seems like whenever race is attached to music, common sense goes out the window.
May 30, 2007 @ 1:48 pm
I like Maroon 5 and I liked No Doubt too. The charts or what was supposedly ‘in’ at any given time never mattered to me. I buy what I like. Thats it.
….and you need to stop hating on Maroon 5, LOL. You just mad he can pull off Prince’s suits…. after he lets out the hems
May 30, 2007 @ 1:50 pm
Oh boy…not Timberlake…
I’m not even gonna.
I still think his album was lackluster.
**horrible Prince and MJ biting excluded**
May 30, 2007 @ 1:51 pm
ihadno: I agree with you. I liked Justin when he was with N’Sync (yes, I happened to like N’Sync, shut up LOL)… but my musical taste is ecclectic whereas a lot of other people’s aint so much so when they hear certain musical elements outside of their typical listening sphere, you get comments like that, which is bullshit to me.
May 30, 2007 @ 1:51 pm
I think we don’t support our own for a number of reasons
1st before their was need to support anything black back in the day
we now its more of every man for him self
2nd we don’t have the same respect for artist that we used to. Before we wanted Janet to win everytime now after 2 Awards we’re sick of Beyonce
i think its cause of over exposure
3. if you can get it cheaper at good quality, no ones gonna buy the original.
Bootlegg tapes never hurt the industry
which is why you could go gold in the hood if the album was tight
Now that we had CD’s the entire hood could love you and say your the shit. But since bootleggs and downloads no ones buyin the original no matter how dope that sht is.
When labels are deciding who to sign and who to market to. We’re no longer financially a factor cause we not supporting our own artforms in the stores and box offices.
So now the music watered down and everyones pst
May 30, 2007 @ 1:53 pm
‘and you need to stop hating on Maroon 5′
No.
May 30, 2007 @ 1:54 pm
And then you wanna complain about the lack of black women in the Fabolous and Bobby V video but 2 weeks ago, Oprah had a show on the defaming black women on video… WHICH ONE IS IT ?
Niggas complain about the conditions in their neighborhoods but will treat their hood like shit…. throw trash right infront of their doorsteps…. lin4e the street up with abandoned cars.
And we think the white man is supposed to come along and clean us up like we are some fucking newborns fresh out the womb. Now I’m riled up.. Imma end up smacking the next ignorant nigga i see and I better not look in the mirror
I just don’t understand that shit… I really really don’t.
May 30, 2007 @ 1:54 pm
May 30, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
Willy, why dont you like them, for real?
May 30, 2007 @ 1:55 pm
‘I happened to like N’Sync’
Jordan Knight says…
[img]http://www.natlauzon.com/im...[/img]I’ll be lovin you for-eveeeeeeer!
May 30, 2007 @ 1:57 pm
N’Sync, nigga, not New Kids on the Block LOL……. I always hated Jordan Knight.
May 30, 2007 @ 1:58 pm
step by steeepp ohhhh bay-byyyyyyyy
May 30, 2007 @ 1:58 pm
I loved me some Menudo though…. all 47 versions LOL.
May 30, 2007 @ 1:58 pm
I just use to be mad that just when I started liking one of em, he hit the age limit and got voted off the island
May 30, 2007 @ 2:02 pm
‘I always hated Jordan Knight.’
Hate Jordan, like N’Sync…
get this woman a cold compress.
‘Willy, why dont you like them, for real?’
They’re tarts.
But here’s what I’ll do.
To show my objectivity I will actually sit down and listen to their latest CD.
But I will blame you, if I lose it and bust my roommates head open wit a xbox controller.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
Dont blame me nigga, Im over here eatin my spinach dip, minding my own damn business.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
the problem is that we think supporting our own means going out and buying something because the producer of that product is black. NO NO NO. I buy products that work. I buy products that I like. I don’t buy shit because its black or white. If you are black and you own a business, your product should be just as good as the rest of the shit out there and you will get my support. Once again… I work for green and if my green is gonna exchange hands you better give me something of equal quality….period. I’m supposed to dumb my standards down just to support your half assed effort… and than give you my twice taxed money…. yeah fucking right.
Will you fucking believe that there was a press conference in NYC to lower the standards for the NYPD ? And guess who was behind it.. thats’ right… niggers… 100 Black In Law Enforcement.
They want the NYPD do away wit the 60college credit requirement. You got black kids getting killed by NYPD and you want them to LOWER THE STANDARDS just because your ass is too lazy to complete 2 years of fucking college you fuciking pice of shit. It makes us all loomk bad and just supports the "lazy nigger" stereotype.
Its always the fucking system. When the fuck is is gonna be up to us for once. 60 fucking credits dude ? You beefing over 60 fucking credits ? How do you go home to your children and explain to them that daddy is too fucking lazy to get an education but you want your child to get theirs.
I’m getting heated now…..
May 30, 2007 @ 2:04 pm
cosign Ihadno
Alot of this sht is our own fault!
White people for yrs we having trouble trying to break into black culture
but we A had a movement not to Sellout
and B supported each other
I hear Lox and Dipset fans mad at 50 music Im like aight its watered down
but how many records do those guys sell doing what their doing!
I heard Puff on the radio when they was beefin wit the Lox say
They wanted to do We are the streets, well they are the streets and they haven’t gone gold or platnium since
yo want less ho’s in video don’t support those artist
if you want more quality music support the commons the Lupes the Roots the Kanyes the Nas but Nah we Got Young Jeezy going plat braggin bout drug dealing. I love the artform but if black people are truely serious about changing anything we need to let our money do the talkin
otherwise Ima continue to hear trash like this dumb song about Lip Gloss I heard last nite on the radio
May 30, 2007 @ 2:06 pm
Ihadno
Im glad you said that… That brings me to the Memorial Day Dinner I went to over a Co-Worker house… Now this (White) Guy…Married has one son that lives with him and a true Republican and Bush Fan… Now of course politics an the Don Imus shit comes up now Me being one of 3 black people there of course defended Hip Hop and gave my opinion an of course brought up Movies TV an other shit. But of course all the other Republicans had something to say… Saying that H/H was dangerous and shit like that… I begin to tell them that its up to the parents to find out what their children are listening to… An as you guessed it they all chimed in saying that they know what there children are doing…. When all of a sudden from his sons room I hear…"Rich Boy sellin crack fuck niggas wanna Jack" etc…etc. Now I look at them an ask whats that your sons playing…. they thought it was just a song about Cadillac…I just shook my head.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:08 pm
May 30, 2007 @ 2:09 pm
‘they thought it was just a song about Cadillac’
sidebar: my favorite teacher didn’t know ‘Cream’ was about sex, and she liked it.
I had to break it to her.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:11 pm
Cream by wu tang is about money
Cash rules everything around me
or do you mean something else
May 30, 2007 @ 2:12 pm
Will you fucking believe that there was a press conference in NYC to lower the standards for the NYPD ? And guess who was behind it.. thats’ right… niggers… 100 Black In Law Enforcement.
WTF… Now thats some bullshit right there. I bet it was some shit about how the standars were biased in some way… DAMN SHAME
May 30, 2007 @ 2:12 pm
I think he means Prince.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:12 pm
banga…all my anecdotes reference prince unless otherwise noted.
The world revolves around it.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:13 pm
May 30, 2007 @ 2:15 pm
Cream by Prince…
Hey thats nothing…. On the song Paid in Full
You know where it says "PUMP UP THE VOLUME…. Nigga my Uncle thought it said "JUMP OFF THE BAYOU"… To this day I give that nigga shit for it.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
wow dats funny
my moms hates all hip hop to her its devils music
when she’s in my car I don’t even turn on the radio or its " I don’t understand how you can listen to that Crap!"
which leads to me turning it up even louder and gettin popped in the back of my head
May 30, 2007 @ 2:16 pm
‘Nigga my Uncle thought it said "JUMP OFF THE BAYOU"… ‘
May 30, 2007 @ 2:17 pm
"JUMP OFF THE BAYOU"
Aw shit…
That’s funny as hell.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:19 pm
My moms don’t mind HIPHOP…but she used to smoke too so…
She can’t say shit.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:19 pm
I actually laughed out loud on that one.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:21 pm
Dude
Im saying…once that nigga did that I couldnt listen to anything he ever told me… I was like "WTF do you know"
May 30, 2007 @ 2:22 pm
‘once that nigga did that I couldnt listen to anything he ever told me’
May 30, 2007 @ 2:26 pm
Shit was sad man… I know he thought he was jammin until i told him…Nigga that aint what he saying… Damn shame
May 30, 2007 @ 2:26 pm
‘Nigga that aint what he saying… Damn shame’
May 30, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
Haha, my ex use to do that shit all the time, be rockin hard as a bitch to some shit sayin the wrong words. I would look at him all screwfaced and go ‘what you say?’ I remember he use to fuck that Biggie song all the way up and on one part he use to say "every cutie wit a booty bought a coochie to go"
You couldnt tell him that wasnt right.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
Oh and For the record….
After New Edition there were no more Boy Bands…just sub par substitutes
May 30, 2007 @ 2:32 pm
Don’t know about that
ABC and the Boys was the sht
Iesha you are the girl I NEVER HAD and I want to get to no you betta
IEEEEEEESHA
The lil girl in that video ended up being one of my best friend
Boston!
May 30, 2007 @ 2:33 pm
Way to be random, CJP
May 30, 2007 @ 2:33 pm
"every cutie wit a booty bought a coochie to go"
For shit like that niggas need there Hip Hop card took… "Nah nigga you can only listen to Polka now"
May 30, 2007 @ 2:35 pm
dig wrote:
Way to be random, CJP
—–
hey I call it like it is… New Edition is the Blueprint… the rest just follow.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:35 pm
Bobby Brown says…
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org...[/img]You ain’t NEVER lied nigga!
May 30, 2007 @ 2:35 pm
I was tryna figure out what the hell is a ‘coochie to go’
After a while I would be like ‘what you say?’ and he would just go ’shut up’ and roll his eyes.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:36 pm
hey I call it like it is… New Edition is the Blueprint… the rest just follow.
30/05 14:35:18
No the Jackson 5 is the blueprint… but I see your point LOL.
Willy you goin to hell for the tight stonewashed jeans and lumpy box pic
May 30, 2007 @ 2:36 pm
I get shit all the time because I am a "conservative democrat". I don’t support systems like affirmative action and welfare. I am all for the death penalty and wish it was applied more often. I understand the effect of savery and segregation etc but when do we do something for ourselves…
Know what ?? This preaching shit is blowing my fucking high. Its bad enough i am jumping over third rails under the influence…. but I’m in a drought and don’t have any pussy to talk about… carry on.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:37 pm
that pic looks soo Batti boy!
AND CJP
Respect ABC Another Bad Creation
May 30, 2007 @ 2:38 pm
Shit look a lil dried out too…
nigga need to let his Soul Glow.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
No the Jackson 5 is the blueprint… but I see your point LOL
No…New Edition is… The Jackson 5 Played Instruments… An we all know Tito couldnt dance for shit.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
May 30, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
CJP: Knock it off LOL.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:40 pm
ihadnochoice wrote:
I get shit all the time because I am a "conservative democrat".
Dude Im right with you… I catch heat all the time for being that way.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:40 pm
Check out Bobby wife beater and jeans with no belt…lol
May 30, 2007 @ 2:41 pm
Speaking of ABC….
Anybody remeber ILLEGAL…lol
"Head or gut do you want it head or gut…buck buck"
May 30, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
Respect ABC Another Bad Creation
Which was found by who…Michael Bivins from New Edition… so once again NE is in the house.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
I mad at those thick throw back wristbands
May 30, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
Jamals solo CD was kinda hot though.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
I’d go even further back and say the Beatles were the original ‘Boy Band’…but let’s not fight about it.
:punchout:
May 30, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
You Illegal was the sht
Malik and Jamal
the lil black kid was ill he murked Snoops first Album
May 30, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
Just realized that Mike Bivins might be the most paid out of NE. I know he caked off od ABC and he sold Boys to men for 15 million !!!
I would have figured he would be a mogul right now since he obviously had an eye for talent… I wonder what happened ?
May 30, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
Damn Bobby chest looks like Whitneys on that damn pic…
:singing:
I wanna Rock with cha baby
Alll Niiiight Looong
May 30, 2007 @ 2:45 pm
fuckers messed up my Tito Jackson joke.
:bashface:
May 30, 2007 @ 2:45 pm
He murked that "Like this like That" joint with Monica too..
"Monica oh Monica so she say hey…
I be the M.A.L.I.K "
Did he ever put anything solo out ?
May 30, 2007 @ 2:45 pm
willyjsimmons wrote:
I’d go even further back and say the Beatles were the original ‘Boy Band’…but let’s not fight about it.
The Beatles stole they shit from the Isley Brothers…. my bad… thats something that my dumb ass Uncle told me
May 30, 2007 @ 2:45 pm
Whitney has a chest
really I’ve seen her breatplate but I never seen any titties
May 30, 2007 @ 2:46 pm
CJP: Dont sing that song, that was my jam, LOL.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
I’m just waitng for R.Kell to do a song with Bobby Brown. That is my dream collabo right there. The former and reigning kings of r&b….
May 30, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
The Beatles stole they shit from the Isley Brothers…. my bad… thats something that my dumb ass Uncle told me
Tell your uncle to call me for an appointment.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:48 pm
I wonder what happened ?
Music changed… Once Criss Cross tore them ABC niggas up it was a wrap…
May 30, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
‘thats something that my dumb ass Uncle told me’
Whitney says…
[img]http://img237.imageshack.us...[/img]Don’t worry about what the fuck I be doin!
May 30, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
Nah I think he got his lil ass arrest for something and didn’t amount to shit after! thats why Jamal split and hooked up with Def Squad
what was their lead single I remember it was some ill sht produced by Eric Sermon
May 30, 2007 @ 2:50 pm
‘Willy, thats what you get.’
No
May 30, 2007 @ 2:50 pm
Banga: Wasnt it some ‘Pop Pop’ shit? (lead single) I think I remember them performing on In Living Color….
May 30, 2007 @ 2:51 pm
hey she really did have boobies
A cups but hey its something
May 30, 2007 @ 2:51 pm
Don’t worry about what the fuck I be doin!
We know she be doing some hard ass drugs… WTF she look tore up in that pic.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
I rememeber jamal had a hot single out using the "ribbon in the Sky" sample but the I can’t get the title. Jamal and Malik was nice. That usually isn’t the case with the kid rappers although Bow Wow has stayed around alot longer than I though he would.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:52 pm
Im mad they be running ‘Being Bobby Brown’ marathons on Bravo now LOL.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:53 pm
TROJAN MAN wrote:
hey she really did have boobies
A cups but hey its something
——–
Naw dawg…them shits was pushed up.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:53 pm
OOOH! Snapped is on! (CJP you got me fucked up on this shit now LOL)
Anybody ever seen that show ‘Noah’s Arc’ yet?
May 30, 2007 @ 2:53 pm
Thems ain’t titties… those are her fucking lungs trying to jump out her fucking chest… tryna get away from the crack…
May 30, 2007 @ 2:54 pm
Im mad they be running ‘Being Bobby Brown’ marathons on Bravo now LOL.
After seeing that shit…I know them niggas got stock in Newport cause they smoke ALL DAMN SHOW.
May 30, 2007 @ 2:58 pm
Dig
Them women go crazy on that shit…
May 30, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
noah’s arc is that SHIT!~
May 30, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
those are her fucking lungs trying to jump out her fucking chest… tryna get away from the crack…
May 30, 2007 @ 3:00 pm
Anybody ever seen that show ‘Noah’s Arc’ yet
Aint that bout some gay dudes…
May 30, 2007 @ 3:02 pm
They got a movie with Morgan Freeman called Noah Ark coming out I think too.
May 30, 2007 @ 3:03 pm
‘Aint that bout some gay dudes… ‘
Yeah. My homegirl been tryna get us to watch it for weeks now and last night was the first time I caught it. That shit is sooooooo nuts (no pun intended LOL)
May 30, 2007 @ 3:03 pm
Nah the Morgan Freeman joint is called ‘Evan Almighty’ (sequel to ‘Bruce Almighty’
and Morgan plays God again.
May 30, 2007 @ 3:05 pm
The only thing I will watch like that is the L-Word…
Beautiful show… just lovely
May 30, 2007 @ 3:07 pm
‘Thems ain’t titties… those are her fucking lungs trying to jump out her fucking chest… tryna get away from the crack…’
Lunch for me!
I’ll holla!
May 30, 2007 @ 3:08 pm
Jennifer Beals would GET IT!!!!
Flashdance til I die NIGGAZ!
(even though that’s an ass double in the movie
)
May 30, 2007 @ 3:08 pm
Nah House! is a good show too
dat White dude is a special kind of Asshole
May 30, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
Yeah House is my shit.
May 30, 2007 @ 3:12 pm
@DIG
My dog got me hooked cause he told me House is just as much of a Jerk as you are
I ain’t that bad but he’s a fkin jackass
May 30, 2007 @ 3:13 pm
LOL @ my mama coming over here…. I go to the door with a Dasani in my hand and she gon say ‘Is that water in there? I hope that’s water in there.’
Muthafuckas….
May 30, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
House had the whole damn crew quit on his ass last night… damn shame
May 30, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
Banga: LMAOOOO my sister said that same shit to me
May 30, 2007 @ 3:17 pm
House be killin em….
Oh and Cutty is sexy as hell… them legs are NIIIIICE
May 30, 2007 @ 3:20 pm
yo
he played this prank on another Doc where he bought him coffee and Put UPPERS in it.
This doc has to give this lady a check for STD’s or some sht but he can’t keep his hands still and he can’t stopp studdering
May 30, 2007 @ 3:22 pm
House be playin God up in that bitch. ‘Lets give him this… he gon die, but we’ll just bring him back.’
May 30, 2007 @ 3:23 pm
I saw that one… That shit was so funny. he had his ass fucked up.
May 30, 2007 @ 3:24 pm
House be playin God up in that bitch.
Last night that Nigga said "why does all the good things have to do with god"
May 30, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
He’s Arrogant as fuck
like when they have meetings
no matter what everyone says he always sarcastic and says
I know Im right
that nice but I know Im right
go head try it
the worst that can happen is he’s gonna die
and then we’ll do it my way anyway next time
May 30, 2007 @ 3:29 pm
YO KOBE JUST ASKED TO BE TRADED!
May 30, 2007 @ 3:32 pm
Speaking of Kobe, have yall seen that new show ‘Ballers’ yet? With John Salley and Guy Torrey and Hugh Whats-his-name on BET? I watched that last night for the first time too, not a bad show. Steve Smith was on there talkin hella shit bout the league. And Baron Davis and his fucken plaid pants and beard ALL OVER HIS DAMN FACE was sittin there lookin like a broke new age Isaac Hayes on crack…..
May 30, 2007 @ 3:33 pm
The whole crew will tell him its not what he says it is an he will still go and do what ever the fuck he wants too…
May 30, 2007 @ 3:36 pm
I dont talk about Baron Davis… the wounds are still fresh…Damn Mavs
But that show seems pretty good… BET Might have something with this one. As long as they dont fuck it up. Cause we know they’ll fuck around an have Tigga hosting that shit an fucking it up.
May 30, 2007 @ 3:38 pm
Paul Pierce sexy ass was on there too but he was trippin LOL…. well I guess some folks would say he was. Talkin bout the Celtics aint suppose to have bad years cause they have such a great history, like that shit dont change with the times. This nigga said "I am a great player on a bad team" and they asked him if he caught any flack for sayin that and he was like (not in so many words) ‘fuck them niggas, its the truth’
May 30, 2007 @ 3:41 pm
Hey I understand Celtics fans cause Every year the Cowboys supposed to the Championship… So when they dont all is wrong with the world…
May 30, 2007 @ 3:42 pm
Paul Pierce is a beast…
May 30, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
Speakin of the Cowboys, that nigga Chris Canty is funny. He had me dying talkin bout T.O.
May 30, 2007 @ 3:45 pm
TJ Housmand…. whatever (LOL) from the Bengals was on there too. They was talkin bout all the Bengal players that been gettin in trouble and he was sayin they have a free limo service that will transport the players so they dont gotta drink and drive and them niggas just will not use it. John Salley heard that and started busting them niggas down bout that shit, LOL. Dont make no sense.
May 30, 2007 @ 3:53 pm
Man them Bengals are fucking up they got a good team too… just a damn shame
May 30, 2007 @ 3:53 pm
Kobe?
Ain’t THAT A BITCH!
Shaq: +1
Kobe: 0
May 30, 2007 @ 3:55 pm
Niggas go from the draft to Cinci to Jail….
May 30, 2007 @ 3:55 pm
And I just heard this nigga on ESPN this morning talkin bout he’s a Laker do or die.
May 30, 2007 @ 3:57 pm
Yeah Kobe said he didnt ask them to trade Shaq… He said Dr. Buss told him that he wasnt gonna keep him… Shaq released a statemnt saying he believe Kobe… So I dont know whats gonna happen now.
May 30, 2007 @ 4:03 pm
Then I’ll consider this old news then..
cuz before I left work, they talked to Kobe again and he said he DIDN’T ask to be traded. That he was just speakin in the hypothetical…
but on ESPN, I’m reading a story that says it was updated at 2:13pm…
So I’m not sure what the fuck to believe.
May 30, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
yo kobe asked o be traded last week if they didnt bring west back- you LATE!~
May 30, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
Some ones doing Damage control
thats what
hwe definitely said but they want to down play it to get him to change his mind
can you imagine how bad ticket sales and Merchandise would plummet
he just switched his jersey to number 24
May 30, 2007 @ 4:08 pm
LOL @ my stupid friend’s Myspace bulletin:
‘I’m currently accepting all left over BBQ dishes, Chicken, Ribs, Mac Salad, Potato Salad, Fried Fish, etc.
Those of you who know where I live can drop them off anytime. I will distribute the food to myself as needed. Thanks!’
Retard.
May 30, 2007 @ 4:08 pm
@Persia
Nah he recanted that statement
and now he’s on a Steven A Smith Podcast say it again
May 30, 2007 @ 4:10 pm
bastard needs to stop making statements while i’m @ work- they got a block on espn.go.com!!!! (along with yahoo sprots, msnbc sport, msn sports…. bastids!
May 30, 2007 @ 4:10 pm
I’m listening to Steven A right now…
‘I will distribute the food to myself as needed.’
May 30, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
Aight yall, Im off to make the donuts… I mean get the midgets LOL… anybody lookin for me later will find me on my couch, slightly tipsy, laughing my ass off at "So You Think You Can Dance" round bout 8.
Yall be cool. 8)